Although kind of annoying, I will admit that I did get a couple jobs through the cold callers and the jobs ended-up not bad. Respectfully, I usually just start the conversation by asking what their rates are. If they tell me, usually the numbers are pretty low, and I tell them the minimum amount it would take me to leave my current job which typically higher than (what I think is) the normal rates. "I think" because I am still figuring out how what that is.
My first couple contracting jobs, the recruiters were more than happy to meet my rate. Then I was suckered into that I already signed up for those rates when I bring up the topic after the interviews. I still worked hard and got some experience eventually leaving for something better. Odd that the same recruiter cannot find a new job for candidates they already have.
Most of the time the recruiter does not give the rate first by asking what I am looking for. So I give a much higher rate than if they gave me their client's range. What I found interesting is that no matter what I give, they always say they cannot meet the range, pick the lower ranged number, and subtract $5 / hr. So if I say that I am look for $50 - 55, they will respond, "I don't think our client can pay that but I can probably get them to do $45." I can double this amount, and they'll say $95. (The values are made up although it would be nice to make $100 / hr.)
Of course, I get fewer call backs when I give higher numbers but it is surprising (at least to me) how they won't reject any value that I provide. Although it sounds like a game, I actually give them real numbers that I can live with because if they ever do say that they can work with it, I do not want to be stuck with something I didn't mean for... even if the number is much higher than the market. Why would I leave a job that I already have good standing at to an unknown place for the similar amount?
Worst is when they ask what I do make... sometimes I give it and sometimes I do not. Why does it matter what I make? If I am going to do more, I should be paid more. If I got a job as a cashier, I am sure they will not be matching my current rate.
One of the many double standards on why everyone just hates the HR industry. Don't hate the recruiters, hate the game =P
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